tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224671339660011652.post2959308463831287209..comments2023-10-18T01:26:10.564-07:00Comments on GAFCON: “And as usual, next will come the gloating…"The Rev. Dr. Christian Trollhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12036555999630488760noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224671339660011652.post-8148035655199538572009-10-07T11:27:17.287-07:002009-10-07T11:27:17.287-07:00Posted at another site.."Given the following:...Posted at another site.."Given the following:http://www.episcopalcafe.com/lead/news_reports/the_situation_in_pittsburgh.html from Joan Gunderson circa June 6, 2008<br /><br />“Please note that Bishop Duncan has assured himself of a comfortable transition. He has built a retirement house on land owned by the diocese and he and his wife have been deeded (as of November 2007) a life interest estate (to the longest lived survivor) in that house. The diocese also loaned Bishop Duncan the money to build that house (terms not in the public record.) In addition we understand that he AND Bishop Scriven have signed consultant contracts with the diocese for two years at full pay which will go into effect SHOULD BISHOP DUNCAN BE DEPOSED.” I am wondering, is the land in question near or on the Donegal Lake Common Property that Bishop Duncan had worked so hard to acquire and improve? See: http://www.pitanglican.org/news/local/donegal. If so, is his property alleged to be owned and the loan something for the the consideration of the Judge James? Was this done in anticipation of the expected deposition, and attempted secession? What are the legal ramifications? I have not been able to verify Gunderson's original source for the terms of the alleged agreement. EmilyH" If such is true, have you Fr. Christian been taking advantage of such wonderful retirement opportunities....? I am assuming that the agreements are airtight to insure Bishop Duncan's future regardless of what happened to the diocese? This certainly is slick and truly worthy of a GAFCON prelate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224671339660011652.post-57508129889660068262009-10-07T09:22:21.738-07:002009-10-07T09:22:21.738-07:00After I posted above, Fr Craig, I read a post on S...After I posted above, Fr Craig, I read a post on StandFirm's thread by Jeremy Bonner, who is, I understand, a lay member of the Pittsburgh cathedral chapter. He writes <i>"I once put it to Bishop Duncan (at a chapter meeting) that the legal battle could be corrosive to those who participated in it, even as they went after a legitimate goal, and that financial costs were not the only ones that should be reckoned. He acknowledged the point, but somewhat grudgingly, and didn’t suggest what sort of benchmarks - other than financial - might have to be met before considering ceasing legal action."</i>Lapinbizarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686990585795363001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224671339660011652.post-54181087249761080372009-10-07T08:39:56.475-07:002009-10-07T08:39:56.475-07:00ah!! 'his grace!' Now I get it - this is...ah!! 'his grace!' Now I get it - this is forbidden by TEC from the very beginng, so +Eyebrows had to get a nw church going to be able to us that appelation!Fr Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04232925124388686609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224671339660011652.post-72801842784747095912009-10-07T08:39:42.053-07:002009-10-07T08:39:42.053-07:00Please read the article about this in the Pittsbur...Please read the article about this in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette today, (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09280/1003568-455.stm). In it, you'll see the diocese wants to help the seceding parishes keep their properties, as well. (Of course, all are welcome back to TEC if they choose.) That's how we handle things in Pittsburgh.Betsyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05679480944866739828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224671339660011652.post-39396564320409185772009-10-07T06:15:38.725-07:002009-10-07T06:15:38.725-07:00A conservative blogger who, since I rather like he...A conservative blogger who, since I rather like her, I will refrain from naming or linking, recently commented on the self-importance of the Duncan entourage <br /><br /><i>"I talk on the phone with Bob Duncan's office and it's "His Grace" this and "His Grace" that and I want to scream and run out of the room.<br /><br />No, no, no, no, no, no, no."</i><br /><br />Pretty bad, by the sound of it. Not to mention, yet again and while we're about it, the apparent Orthodite article of faith that Gregg Venables, Argentine poacher and Presiding Bishop of the Southern Cone, is an "Archbishop". These people need "Status" <i><b>SO</b></i> badly. Guess the P-B title is hopelessly tainted by Girl Cooties.Lapinbizarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686990585795363001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224671339660011652.post-20498734167821232172009-10-07T04:26:11.518-07:002009-10-07T04:26:11.518-07:00But you miss the point, Fr. Christian, the lawsuit...But you miss the point, Fr. Christian, the lawsuits are about financial punishment, not simply property acquisition. I think it was Susan Russell who published the 2000 IRD playbook which talked about this strategy.Bubbanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224671339660011652.post-43580949169149572402009-10-07T00:20:30.460-07:002009-10-07T00:20:30.460-07:00Please may I be the first to gloat on your blog? ...Please may I be the first to gloat on your blog? xxxpoppy tupperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02199333822668790443noreply@blogger.com